Chimney Liners required?

[Nwalky]

Good morning all,

Just a quick one, ive recently been asked to fit a new fire in a property, there was one in previously but was removed simply because the customer no longer wanted it; however they have now changed their mind and i have not done very many fire installations in all my years of being in the trade so i was wondering do you need to line the chimney because its a new install? or is it alright to install a fire as long as the chimney passes the smoke test? Just thought i would ask the question to see if any of you are more experienced in fitting fires.

Thanks in advance

 

[ShaunCorbs]

I would always fit a liner but would get it swept and inspected first by a sweep then smoke test it

 

[Basher]

Good morning all,

Just a quick one, ive recently been asked to fit a new fire in a property, there was one in previously but was removed simply because the customer no longer wanted it; however they have now changed their mind and i have not done very many fire installations in all my years of being in the trade so i was wondering do you need to line the chimney because its a new install? or is it alright to install a fire as long as the chimney passes the smoke test? Just thought i would ask the question to see if any of you are more experienced in fitting fires.

Thanks in advance

Just speaking as an occasional user of our solid fuel appliance, the issue of a 'HETAS' approved certificate for its installation, and HETAS approved chimney sweeping has been a pain ever since we bought the property. The insurance company insists on seeing the certificates and receiving chimney sweeping certificates every year. (Reason is the property is thatched!)
I'm not up on the complexity of what you propose, but I thought fire installation requirements are covered in Building Regulations Approved Document J, and what you suggest is notifiable work and requires certification.

I came across this which might be of interest:

https://mr-soot.com/2021/01/31/myth-busted-why-you-dont-need-hetas-paperwork-for-stove-installation-or-chimney-sweeping/

 

[Last Plumber]

You can fit it without a liner yes. So long as it meets all the usual criteria and is isn't leaking. It would be considered best practice to line it and it will probably draw better.